tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post7228093120079318460..comments2024-03-28T09:20:06.188+02:00Comments on nicu's FOSS'n'stuff: The way of the dodonicuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-11986339795864425522010-05-20T16:27:48.525+03:002010-05-20T16:27:48.525+03:00I like this find an application or document by typ...I like this find an application or document by typing it’s name in the search box. Is new and i saw this on blender 2.5. Gnome and XFCE are great . Some articles told us that Windows is trying to overcome the Linux with graphics of Vista, so ...Mythcatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-5538398049992518402009-11-26T23:24:57.959+02:002009-11-26T23:24:57.959+02:00I totally agree with you Nicu!I totally agree with you Nicu!kenjiruhttp://kenjiru.ronoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-26679807058023106202009-10-23T21:32:05.381+03:002009-10-23T21:32:05.381+03:00Speaking about Moblin, on Fedora 12 Beta, trying t...Speaking about Moblin, on Fedora 12 Beta, trying to click on some icons do nothing unless keyboard is used. <br />My complain about gnome-shell is the requirement of hardware acceleration which made it useless on nouveau driver. I do not understand why the team behind Gnome-Shell did not include fall back. At least Enlightenment e17 does similar effects in software.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-22625328061043692592009-10-23T06:26:00.817+03:002009-10-23T06:26:00.817+03:00@nicu: only one click, not two. There is a zoom a...@nicu: only one click, not two. There is a zoom animation, but you don't have to click the activities button to activation it, only throw your mouse to the corner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-77810476401818426172009-10-22T20:55:30.939+03:002009-10-22T20:55:30.939+03:00Hi, I agree that the overview doesn't work ver...Hi, I agree that the overview doesn't work very well for frequent window switching.<br /><br />There is a lot of work going on in Alt-TAB, and I think a near term goal is going to be making the Alt-TAB like UI available more easily or more discoverable for people who don't know Alt-TAB (as many people don't).Colin Waltershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07005185411005194524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-22175944608553416532009-10-22T15:58:02.934+03:002009-10-22T15:58:02.934+03:00@Chris: to change applications you need two mouse ...@Chris: to change applications you need two mouse clicks instead of one and have to go trough an unnecessary and time wasting zoom/move of the interface.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-53781479006823080042009-10-22T15:39:17.405+03:002009-10-22T15:39:17.405+03:00I've actually been playing with gnome-shell (b...I've actually been playing with gnome-shell (built on f11) for a few days not and also constantly switch applications and have found the loss of the bottom "window" toolbar and improved alt-tab functionality quite liberating. <br /><br />I'm not sure why you found it so hard switching applications? I generally have used alt left and right to switch workspaces and alt-tab applications. The sub grouping of applications here is excellent and efficient.<br /><br />I would say that there is lots of work to be done here but the potential is significant.Chrishttp://www.chrisfleming.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-27598376379661317382009-10-22T10:37:46.057+03:002009-10-22T10:37:46.057+03:00@Béranger: and the trouble is, GNOME Shell is only...@Béranger: and the trouble is, GNOME Shell is only a preview so far, but it is supposed to be pushed upstream and become at some point the default in all GNOME based distributions. Is not about just a distro screwing-up a relase, but about the future of the desktop.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-6347604885532186102009-10-22T10:35:44.521+03:002009-10-22T10:35:44.521+03:00@Béranger you need to create a template to your li...@Béranger you need to create a template to your liking, save it, then go to template organizer, find it, right click and set as default. Very unintuitive, you can't discover it without reading the manual.<br /><br />The Irish locale has additional benefits (Caolan pointed this workaround to me) as it will get other sane defaults, like measurements in cm instead on inches.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-64284151278795054492009-10-22T09:58:26.418+03:002009-10-22T09:58:26.418+03:00@Nicu: I don't want to change to Ireland Engli...@Nicu: I don't want to change to Ireland English or whatnot. Changing the default template is VERY cumbersome. It even beats me, which means I couldn't find a way to change it. <br /><br />Besides, this is not the proper solution to AN ELEMENTARY NEED. Microsoft figured out the solution decades ago: <a href="http://beranger.org/blogo21/word_page_setup.png" rel="nofollow">and here it is</a>.<br /><br />Too complex for the Sun/Novell/etc. guys who screw Oo.o, eh?<br /><br /><br />@J5: I'd better cut my hands off than using Fedora Linux ever again! Thanks, J5. Now I have a really good reason to despise Red Hat, which is your employer. Yes, Microsoft's developers are more polite and less arrogant than the open-source developers. With closed-source software, the top management is arrogant, not the developers per se.<br /><br />As a side note, I know this is not the proper place, as you're not using CentOS here and the repo I'm going to mention is not a popular one, but: now that CentOS 5.4 was released and I AM NO LONGER USING RED HAT-BASED distros, I'm looking for a maintainer of <a href="http://odiecolon.lastdot.org/" rel="nofollow">Odiecolon.repo</a>.Bérangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01518438517538199495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-78860758257559797992009-10-22T09:29:23.679+03:002009-10-22T09:29:23.679+03:00@Martin: i think is important to write about unhap...@Martin: i think is important to write about unhappiness with the GNOME Shell preview, otherwise the developers are content with the praises received in their small universe and will leave it as is, ending with a very bad GNOME 3.0. And when it will be to late they will say "but nobody complained".<br /><br />I know I may come very strong against it so my negative feedback may get disregarded for being too strong, but I can't temper more, I find GNOME Shell to be *that* bad.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-84831264008504787032009-10-22T09:22:40.072+03:002009-10-22T09:22:40.072+03:00@Béranger: is cumbersome and unintuitive but you c...@Béranger: is cumbersome and unintuitive but you can change the default template in OOo. Also, I got the suggestion to set my locale to en-IE instead of en-US to get english language but with sane defaults.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-63075613302562940862009-10-22T07:55:55.019+03:002009-10-22T07:55:55.019+03:00@Béranger being in the thick of it and understandi...@Béranger being in the thick of it and understanding what it takes to really develop software I have to say you are full of shit. I don't think you are worth interacting with anymore. Please find someone else to harass. Constructive criticism is welcome, hecklers can go to hell.John (J5) Palmierihttp://j5live.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-41696585466038099642009-10-21T21:22:13.344+03:002009-10-21T21:22:13.344+03:00Albeit my critical first comment I like most of th...Albeit my critical first comment I like most of the ideas of the gnome shell and zeitgeist. I can't wait to try it on my Ubuntu guinea pigs ;)<br /><br />I hope Gnome-shell will force KDE4 activities to be easier to manage. The current KDE ZUI just sux and is cumbersome. Gnome-shell is much nicer, but I want widgets and different backgrounds. KDE will probably get where I want to be first once they take a few good ideas from Gnome-shell.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10566325100945295105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-74068125695532170522009-10-21T21:09:10.683+03:002009-10-21T21:09:10.683+03:00"If demand was there, there would be people j..."If demand was there, there would be people jumping up and down to maintain it."<br />--> You must be kidding, right? Of living in a different Universe.<br /><br />Even for the #1 DE (#1 in North America), that is GNOME, and despite the involvement of several IT companies (including RHAT), the development and the maintenance are barely decent. Hundreds of unfixed bugs since ages, even for simple software like Gedit! And, after how many years was the Compact view added to Nautilus? Plus, it was an individual effort -- none of the big companies ever bothered (and this includes RHAT).<br /><br />It also takes/took ages for NetworkManager to be usable. <br /><br />Outside the DE, OO.o is such a lame alternative to MS Office that it makes me puke -- enough to say that I have to switch the paper format from Letter to A4 for each and every new Writer document (MS Word has a single-click button that makes this option as default for the Default template; I couldn't find a way to do the same in oowriter).<br /><br />Linux is a better choice because it's free and flexible. Otherwise, its desktop-related components (being it about X.Org, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, major apps) are so bug-ridden that the single argument in their favor is this one: they're open source.<br /><br />Big, big, big names: Intel, Red Hat, Novell, IBM, etc. etc. etc. are making money from Linux and Linux apps, yet this software sucks, sucks, sucks.<br /><br />Companies can't fix this. Individuals can't fix this -- it looks like crazy individuals like you guys are only motivated by "bleeding-edge stuff", so NO ONE will volunteer for a MAINTENANCE task, just admit it, dammit!<br /><br />Oh boy, I really, really LOVED MS-DOS. But it was '90-'93 back then.Bérangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01518438517538199495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-49578001257784169152009-10-21T21:06:00.371+03:002009-10-21T21:06:00.371+03:00lol, quite a lot of comments >_< I've do...lol, quite a lot of comments >_< I've done the same as you, but didn't get around to write a (rant) blog post about it... Everything I have accessible now on one click needs two clicks in gnome shell plus the zoom in-zoom out sequence... I don't see anywhere (unless I zoom out) what windows do I have open, I cannot drag and drop them between desktops, and this list could go on... And the blackness is killing me :-( Hope this will either improve a lot (both from design and usability perspective) or go the way of dodo, otherwise I'll need to switch to XFCE or LXDE (or fork gnome 2.x) :-(Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18184701134359021954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-7521930156801452442009-10-21T18:23:59.607+03:002009-10-21T18:23:59.607+03:00no, i'm not happy with Xfce but consider it pr...no, i'm not happy with Xfce but consider it probably the least bad alternativenicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-14917919316236269172009-10-21T18:19:55.558+03:002009-10-21T18:19:55.558+03:00@nicu, @beranger: Someone has to make a decision. ...@nicu, @beranger: Someone has to make a decision. it is hard to please everyone, but you are rehasing the same arguments which have been heard since DE's were invented. Time marches on and research changes. The nice thing is you found a solution in XFCE so yay, Open Source does work . BTW I'm pretty sure the black will be able to be changed via a config at some point.<br /><br />On the point that KDE3 isn't maintained anymore could it be that no one wants to maintain it just for a small group of people. If demand was there, there would be people jumping up and down to maintain it. In open source you can't blame other people for not doing the work if you aren't willing to do it yourself. But there is a contingent of people who are willing to put the work into XFCE so if that is your cup of tea then your energies are most likely better servered working with that community instead of maligning another community who, I might add has put in a lot of work that you use (XFCE is built on a lot of the GNOME technologies). Same goes to KDE and GNOME folks who go trolling in other projects.John (J5) Palmierihttp://j5live.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-31127192138916234602009-10-21T17:42:33.025+03:002009-10-21T17:42:33.025+03:00...e.g. in XFCE I can have xfce4-timer-plugin, whe......e.g. in XFCE I can have xfce4-timer-plugin, whereas in GNOME I had to use KTeaTime from KDE!<br /><br />(Yes, I am a heavy tea drinker. Yes, I need a reminder. No, I don't have a sand glass.)Bérangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01518438517538199495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-23147395647363982522009-10-21T17:40:14.903+03:002009-10-21T17:40:14.903+03:00@J5: back when Windows went grey, everybody follow...@J5: back when Windows went grey, everybody followed as grey was supposed to be easy on eyes. Now that Windows moved to black, everybody is following because black provides better contrast?<br /><br />And why should I would be forced to choose either annoying zooming or keyboard only?nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-15096613830327760102009-10-21T17:36:35.274+03:002009-10-21T17:36:35.274+03:00I also found LXDE nice, but a bit too simplistic f...I also found LXDE nice, but a bit too simplistic for extensive use, Xfce has a lot more features.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-46770734051924159682009-10-21T17:25:05.909+03:002009-10-21T17:25:05.909+03:00Yes, LXDE has some advantages over XFCE, but overa...Yes, LXDE has some advantages over XFCE, but overall I didn't like it.Bérangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01518438517538199495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-65780673438709158252009-10-21T17:21:53.064+03:002009-10-21T17:21:53.064+03:00@Béranger: did you try LXDE ? It's a very ligh...@Béranger: did you try LXDE ? It's a very lightweight desktop environment, kind of like XFCE, but IMHO, XFCE feels like the sum of different GTK apps whereas LXDE feels like a consistent and integrated desktop environment, more like Gnome.bochechahttp://bochecha.fedorapeople.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-67170393825461144752009-10-21T17:17:42.781+03:002009-10-21T17:17:42.781+03:00Oh, I forgot. The only "beneficial" cons...Oh, I forgot. The only "beneficial" consequence of GNOME Shell and other frightening novelties in GNOME3 is that it pushed me seriously into XFCE (namely Xubuntu, because it looks & feels pretty much like GNOME).<br /><br />Should the XFCE developers start eating the wrong kind of mushrooms, then I'd definitely go for Windows 7 (8, 9...), because KDE4 is less usable than Win7 (I tested both of them on the same laptop for one month each).Bérangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01518438517538199495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-90989035457986676762009-10-21T17:12:38.949+03:002009-10-21T17:12:38.949+03:00@J5: Nay, the real pattern is "design by comm...@J5: Nay, the real pattern is "design by committee". Even if it's not "by committee", the mere fact that 1-100 developers of a major DE can impose their "vision" to millions of users makes me think that the only disadvantage of Windows is that it's not free. The "open" in "open source" is useless -- who can afford to maintain a fork/branch of a project, once its developers get high and take wrong decisions? NOBODY. (As in "nobody adopted KDE3 for further maintaining".)<br /><br />I hate the open source developers who are always high and trying to "invent things" nobody asked for.<br /><br />I can't use a Mac, it's counterintuitive to me, so I definitely DON'T want anyone to mimic anything from it.Bérangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01518438517538199495noreply@blogger.com