tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post2806730237289409179..comments2024-03-28T09:20:06.188+02:00Comments on nicu's FOSS'n'stuff: On Zombies and Desktopsnicuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-74055086512652885732012-03-09T21:55:08.140+02:002012-03-09T21:55:08.140+02:00That's what I fear. That's what I want to ...That's what I fear. That's what I want to prevent. That's what would finally convince me to support a fork of the "fallback mode" or to go the xfce way.<br /><br />Unfortunately the shell is a collection of ill thoughts. Starting from the underlying javascript crap, down to the silly design ideas.<br /><br />Keeping the fallback mode alive should be feasible. We need to fight for (and help) its survival.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-43372634564744544312012-03-09T08:40:29.448+02:002012-03-09T08:40:29.448+02:00practically GNOME 3 is GNOME Shell, the "fall...practically GNOME 3 <b>is</b> GNOME Shell, the "fallback mode" is/was intended as an interim solution for the transition, poised to be discontinued. Now that GNOME 3.4 has the Shell working with no hardware acceleration, expect the fallback to go away, perhaps in 3.6nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-27365073814029608012012-03-09T08:37:40.850+02:002012-03-09T08:37:40.850+02:00you know a Firefox comparison is not a flattering ...you know a Firefox comparison is not a flattering one: Firefox has became a pig, with huge resources usage, lacking features users expect to be there by default, having the design principle "copy everything Chrome" and losing market share and user minds to Chrome every day.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-55411738331109345952012-03-09T03:56:20.147+02:002012-03-09T03:56:20.147+02:00> but I found this preferable to the small and ...> but I found this preferable to the small and fixed-sized start menu in Windows 7 or KDE, where you have to flip page after page before reaching what you need.<br /><br />Me too, but switching to the classic menu (even called like that) in Plasma is a matter of 2 clicks!Kevin Koflerhttp://www.tigen.org/kevin.kofler/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-35461162452788152612012-03-09T03:45:06.658+02:002012-03-09T03:45:06.658+02:00* I think that is the case of getting used to his/...* I think that is the case of getting used to his/her own mess. On Gnome shell, you can select your favourite applications and assign them to the left dock. Same on Windows 7 when you assign your favourite program on the top menu. Old menu from Gnome is available via extension.<br /><br />* Extension is available for bottom panel on Gnome shell.<br /><br />* Speaking about windows, grab gTiles extension from extensions.gnome.org where you resize the window of your application to improve your production.<br /><br />Gnome shell is the Firefox of desktop environment with extensible core features. 130 extensions and growing are available to try out.Luya Tshimbalangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05391142834277609577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-21231564403045321892012-03-08T23:06:30.193+02:002012-03-08T23:06:30.193+02:00I think there is some confusion between "gnom...I think there is some confusion between "gnome3" and the "gnome shell".<br />What we all hate is the "gnome3 shell", while the "gnome3" "fallback mode" is still mostly usable and can be made identical to che Gnome2 desktop. Which includes the applets, the colours and the general behaviour (Please note that gnome-applets are not installed by default, but they are still available as a separate package).<br />See <a rel="nofollow">"Gnome Shell? Not just yet, thanks."</a> for references.<br />http://ao2.it/it/blog/2011/10/19/gnome-3-go-shell-not-just-yet-thanks<br /><br />Stuff that leverages or forks the shell is not the way to go on my opinion.<br />Our best chance to conserve a decent gnome experience is to help with the development of the classic mode _within_ the current gnome, while lobbying against its removal. Which is the only case in which forking or moving away for good may be inevitable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-47659624435178231942012-03-08T17:04:17.011+02:002012-03-08T17:04:17.011+02:00I *never* maximize my windows when using the deskt...I *never* maximize my windows when using the desktop PC, not even when just browsing (however, I maximize when using the netbook, which has a very small display), so I can click on icons.<br />Well, there is an exception: full screen when watching movies or playing games, but that's an entirely different use case :)nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-36238585674453893692012-03-08T16:52:23.722+02:002012-03-08T16:52:23.722+02:00+100 from me. Some more-or-less consenting comment...+100 from me. Some more-or-less consenting comments:<br />* Gnome2/XFCE menu is really useful. If you have sane number of apps, finding one there is easy as pie -- you want to fire up movie player, so you go to media and here you are. Compared to Gnome 3... Or Windows 7 where finding libreoffice is next to impossible unless you use keyboard (and search-by-type) :-D<br /><br />* I don't care about icons on desktop though -- I don't use desktop for any other purpose than space to place windows on :D Home icon, device icons -- all in places menu which is visible even with maximized windows. And shortcuts to the most used apps in bottom panel.<br /><br />* I cannot live with the concept window = task, because it does not hold true for my workflow, hence I need to pile up windows side by side, above themselves, ... And sort by virtual desktops. Cannot be done with Gnome 3.<br /><br />* And as for mail client... well I'm a little bit like linus with desktops here :D Started with thunderbird, until some odd bug driven me to evolution, which I started to like, but around the time of Gnome 3 arrival, I switched again to claws mail. And I'm really happy with that.<br /><br />* And web browser? Midori and Google Chrome as backup. Firefox only for those rare cases where java plugin blows up in webkit. And to be fair, I grew to dislike firefox, even on windows I prefer to use google chrome if available.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18184701134359021954noreply@blogger.com