tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post2813367175577174815..comments2024-03-28T09:20:06.188+02:00Comments on nicu's FOSS'n'stuff: Microsoft Office Open XML and ISO fast-track adoptionnicuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-31664637030088016192007-08-31T03:30:00.000+03:002007-08-31T03:30:00.000+03:00Pe ultima suta de metri, Ungaria si tarile nordice...Pe ultima suta de metri, Ungaria si tarile nordice isi reconsidera pozitia (refac votul national):<BR/><BR/>http://www.noooxml.org/forum/t-18042/hungarian-standards-institution-to-reconsider-its-vote<BR/><BR/>Razvanrsandu2007https://www.blogger.com/profile/14159959682553011177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-80649534426072238332007-08-23T15:56:00.000+03:002007-08-23T15:56:00.000+03:00Hello, Nicu & all,Even if our Romanian ASRO (http:...Hello, Nicu & all,<BR/><BR/>Even if our Romanian ASRO (http://www.asro.ro) seems to be full of Microsoft puppets (not so "blind", I'd say, since they are financially interested...), some of us started a campaign to inform the large Romanian public.<BR/><BR/>Please see our efforts at:<BR/><BR/>http://www.openoffice.org<BR/>http://rsandu.myblog.ro<BR/><BR/>and, if you want to help, plase sign at<BR/><BR/>http://www.noooxml.org/petition-ro<BR/><BR/>Any comment or idea on the Romanian blogs is welcomed.<BR/><BR/>What we can do in this moment is to inform as many people as possible about the "Opendocument vs. OOXML" matter. Would you please help ?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>Răzvan Sandursandu2007https://www.blogger.com/profile/14159959682553011177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-54399380468289514692007-08-23T13:06:00.000+03:002007-08-23T13:06:00.000+03:00The problem is: Even when you agree in principle t...The problem is: Even when you agree in principle that the standard should be adopted you cannot agree with the current ECMA specification as it is full of technical problems. The only way to make ECMA to address those or get Microsoft to offer more specification, better patent license conditions and so on is to vote "No with comments" as there is no "Yes with Comments" in fast track although Microsoft claims otherwise. Fast-track was designed for adoption without comments but ECMA didn't do its job. <BR/><BR/>If you are fine with the current ECMA specification feel free to implement it. But for ISO adoption it is no rational negotiation strategy to grant them ISO approval "for free".<BR/><BR/>When you say "No" to the current specification you face absolutely no risks and do the "right thing"(tm). And you ensure that your comments will be taken into account.<BR/><BR/>No market player except Microsoft needs an ISO approval of the OOXML format. And even if you think all the technical problems of ECMA are fine and the ECMA standard was acceptable as it is you still have to vote "no", in order to get offered more from Microsoft. We have the ECMA standard, we have the ECMA standard wacky patent conditions. Now they want to relabel it "ISO standard", so what do they offer? <BR/><BR/>I would strongly advise to negotiate a bit longer to get more. Nothing to lose! Even when the ISO process fails as a whole, and OOXML gets rejected.<BR/><BR/>Yes with Comments is a stupid vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-76438831986300610492007-08-23T12:55:00.000+03:002007-08-23T12:55:00.000+03:00Don't get too gloomy about it. I don't have a link...Don't get too gloomy about it. I don't have a link to the official statement of the Czech committee just now, but in short it is 'no with reservations' (my own translation...). I hope there will be more countries looking at it from technical point of view (there is a lot of holes in the specification) than from ideological one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com