tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post4506858927158121183..comments2024-03-28T09:20:06.188+02:00Comments on nicu's FOSS'n'stuff: HTML layout and fontsnicuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-43403893953135987612007-06-22T08:21:00.000+03:002007-06-22T08:21:00.000+03:00Sure avi, but I believe I said a second version of...Sure <B>avi</B>, but I believe I said a second version of Liberation is expected to have better hinting.<BR/>And there is always the software patents problem, fonts will not look identical on Linux and Windows, hell, they don't look identical even on <A HREF="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html" REL="nofollow">Mac and Windows</A>, but to preserve the layout the same metrics are very useful.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-30405622145944844772007-06-21T21:13:00.000+03:002007-06-21T21:13:00.000+03:00To have the same metrics is just part of the probl...To have the same metrics is just part of the problem.<BR/><BR/>The original Microsoft fonts contain byte-codes that help a byte-code-interpreter-enabled renderer to draw text in small sizes that look better, almost perfect.<BR/><BR/>More references and screenshots:<BR/><BR/>http://avi.alkalay.net/2007/01/freetype-with-bytecode-interpreter.html<BR/>http://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/Font.html#notgoodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-49457658613406187912007-06-19T16:44:00.000+03:002007-06-19T16:44:00.000+03:00Yes, I cannot wait until the next release of Liber...Yes, I cannot wait until the next release of Liberation Sans. While the metrics are not quite perfectly compatible, I find myself using DejaVu Sans (Condensed where available) since it's pretty close and looks great.frankiiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07989124132534674757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-68249405591124834052007-06-19T16:17:00.000+03:002007-06-19T16:17:00.000+03:00Correct, the initial iteration of Liberation is no...Correct, the initial iteration of Liberation is not perfect, but a second version is expected, with better hinting.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-52638324762034258412007-06-19T16:00:00.000+03:002007-06-19T16:00:00.000+03:00You're right, Liberation Sans has the same metrics...You're right, <B>Liberation Sans</B> has the same metrics as <B>Arial</B>, however it renders <I>not-so-great</I> at small sizes.<BR/><BR/>This is why I prefer to choose from the Verdana-like metrics fonts, and only fall back to the Arial-like metrics. I have installed both <B>Liberation Sans</B> and <B>DejaVu Sans</B> on Windows, and <B>DejaVu is definitely looking better at small sizes</B>! (No ClearType though.)<BR/><BR/>So my font-family mixes two major metrics, with consideration to both Windows and Linux users: Verdana, DejaVu Sans, Bitstream Vera Sans, Nimbus Sans L, Liberation Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com