tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post9026381172271528891..comments2024-03-28T09:20:06.188+02:00Comments on nicu's FOSS'n'stuff: Romanian Fedora community at crossroadsnicuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-61950577062563128832011-02-21T13:12:15.384+02:002011-02-21T13:12:15.384+02:00Nicu my suggestion is that you try to present Fedo...Nicu my suggestion is that you try to present Fedora to high-schoolers and students to "recruit" fresh blood, it you believe that is what is needed. If not just continue doing stuff that you can as an individual and leave stuff aside that required more people.<br /><br />Also I'm interested which distro your friends started?Valenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777865499425277857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-65592130828477852562011-02-21T09:34:01.371+02:002011-02-21T09:34:01.371+02:00@Máirín: friends are the people who don't let ...@Máirín: friends are the people who don't let me down.<br /><br />as for the wigs... the girls in the local FOSS community <b>love</b> them and I am talking about computer science students, design students and so.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-84539770256533710662011-02-19T03:34:12.625+02:002011-02-19T03:34:12.625+02:00Nicu, I didn't snub you by saying "Make i...Nicu, I didn't snub you by saying "Make it". I actually said, "You make it." Sadly, you have chose to make Fedora a place where it's cool to pick on Girl Scouts. Using the program I put time, love, and energy into as your platform for making war. <br /><br />Not classy. <br /><br />This blog post is the closest you've been to being reasonable about what's happening. Don't think I'm too stupid to understand your new hackergotchi, though. <br /><br />You spit in the face of a friend, why? I don't know. But you are the one who chose to behave this way. I never attacked you.Máirín Duffyhttp://mairin.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-40534099716604062932011-02-19T01:47:36.601+02:002011-02-19T01:47:36.601+02:00Please do me a favor... could you email me and spe...Please do me a favor... could you email me and specify what things people are unhappy about? I've really only heard bits and pieces and I'm thinking I'm missing significant chunks. I'd like to hear. I'm email me and writing that up will consume your time and probably reopen the frustration, but I'd appreciate it.<br /><br />dowdle@montanalinux.orgScott Dowdlehttp://www.montanalinux.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-59407626669888808182011-02-18T19:36:56.608+02:002011-02-18T19:36:56.608+02:00i know i feel bad because it does feel like everyo...i know i feel bad because it does feel like everyone around is going away... maybe my cry will make people silent in the community make a step forward.<br /><br />yes, things happens because we make them: when i go to conferences i usually pay from my own pocket - FOSDEM, FUDCon, the Fedora launch parties happened because we organized them (if there is a next one I will be overwhelmed by Debian people, heck, maybe even by SUSE people now... the wheel is turning), the monthly LUG meetings happen with a lot of effort from us... and then people snub at you saying "make it".<br /><br />About the Edit thing... I lived a good part of my life (16 years) in a dictatorial regime, with censure and lack of freedom, sorry but I grew quickly intolerant with anything that resembles it... if someone want filtering he can use his own system... put in a RSS reader (Google reader, Liferea, whatever) only the feeds he is interested in and delete when he does not like something. Having the selection made by an arbitrary authority (the "authority" being a person who joined Fedora less than a month ago make it only worse) is censure and divides the community in two classes: the elite and the plebes... but I feel this division more and more every day inside the project.<br /><br />You know what was recomforting a bit? Going at FOSDEM and seeing most of the European Ambassadors/contributors are unhappy with the status and direction of the project... so I am not totally insane.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-90090392514340101082011-02-18T18:26:49.568+02:002011-02-18T18:26:49.568+02:00Nicu... you... "go on all by yourself"? ...Nicu... you... "go on all by yourself"? You are never alone. Look at all of the events you attend. Look at all of the photos of others you take. And those hot model photos you have shared from time to time... like wow. I envy you in so many ways. Sorry for sounding like a sexist pig... but I am one sometimes.<br /><br />Anyway... count your blessings... even if the sky is falling a little. If you didn't care you wouldn't be so public about it.<br /><br />Let it be known that I'm a lowly Fedora Ambassadors who isn't really that active with regards to actually contributing to Fedora. I live in the state of Montana in the US. I decided to skim the wikipedia pages for Romania and Montana to compare them some.<br /><br />Size:<br />Romania - 92,043 sq mi<br />Montana - 147,042 sq mi<br /><br />Population:<br />Romanai - 21,959,278<br />Montana - 989,415<br /><br />Linux and/or Fedora events within 400 miles of Montana? 0 The Utah Open Source Conference is the closest (about 450 miles) followed by LinuxFest Northwest (about 1,000 miles)... and I try to go to both although I missed the last UTOSC.<br /><br />Linux and/or Fedora events within 400 miles of Romaia? Not sure but you seem to go to a lot of them. :)<br /><br />I've yet to make it to a Fudcon nor a Red Hat Summit... they've always been more than 1,000 miles away... and I don't have a lot of money for such events... but I'd definitely like to go.<br /><br />Number of FAs in Montana that I'm aware of:<br />1 - me<br /><br />Number of FAs in Romania:<br />How many you said minus the ones who have moved on... leaving just you. Given the size and population of Romania (vs Montana anyway), I'm guessing you have potentially a half dozen within a stones throw.<br /><br />As I see it, I'm more alone than you but you don't seem me complaining... or am I? :)<br /><br />Regarding the Edited thing again... it is just an alternative to the main feed and not the default. It doesn't hurt anything to have it. I wouldn't call it press releases only either. I have my own blog but I have not bothered to try and get my posts onto Fedora Planet because I didn't want to have to think about what I said being posted to Planet... and most of what I write about is local stuff. Sure Edited happened in the middle of this saucy time but don't take that personally. They should have started it a long time ago... mainly to give those who do get overly upset about off-topic posts a happy land of their own. So to reiterate, Edited isn't really for you, but for a few others. Now if they ever make Edited the default, then it would be time to get pissed.Scott Dowdlehttp://www.montanalinux.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-44491348162396018232011-02-18T17:25:19.851+02:002011-02-18T17:25:19.851+02:00@Andrei: i have to repeat my PS? 'this is not ...@Andrei: i have to repeat my PS? 'this is not and invitation for other community distros to try to "recruit" me'nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-42039464850188855952011-02-18T17:20:38.546+02:002011-02-18T17:20:38.546+02:00Hey, I'm sure Sirko would miss your inspiratio...Hey, I'm sure Sirko would miss your inspirational work if you decide to go away. Then again, he surely would also appreciate working with you on our distro :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-40334645432427696462011-02-18T16:52:15.823+02:002011-02-18T16:52:15.823+02:00@Scott: i was also annoyed about the Ubuntu thing ...@Scott: i was also annoyed about the Ubuntu thing on Planet Fedora or about the pro-Microsoft thing on Planet GNOME, <b>but</b> i enjoy <b>a lot</b> learning from Planet Fedora what new photos my friend X made, what my friend Y cooked or what's new about my friend Z dog... we are humans and we are supposed to be friends... if i wanted press releases i would read press releases, if i want technical info i can read it in the multitude of mailing lists i am subscribed to.nicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-2074276232374265182011-02-18T16:48:41.723+02:002011-02-18T16:48:41.723+02:00@stas: i am not sure i can go on all by myself... ...@stas: i am not sure i can go on all by myself... surely when i started with fedora i was alone doing my own thing, then we grew as a (local) community. however, looking at fedora now i have to think twice (thrice?) about restartingnicuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787116898361050437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-45643047699842129432011-02-18T16:41:14.836+02:002011-02-18T16:41:14.836+02:00I remember myself years ago asking for contributio...I remember myself years ago asking for contributions just in the same way you did.<br />Good luck my friend, though my experience says we're lonely wolves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5797212.post-81855992282114802032011-02-18T16:28:23.995+02:002011-02-18T16:28:23.995+02:00I suggest you keep on keeping on... but I live hal...I suggest you keep on keeping on... but I live halfway around the world from you... and what does my opinion matter? You'll have to decide for yourself.<br /><br />I'm hoping your snarky comments and graphics will eventually brighten up at some point and you'll get over being slighted with the graphics direction of Fedora 15 when development on Fedora 16 starts to happen. We'll see if you hold out long enough. I certainly hope you do because I enjoy your creativity, energy, sense of humor, and writing and picture taking. I haven't checked out any of the videos yet.<br /><br />Regarding the whole Fedora Edited thing. There have been some complaints on GNOME Planet and on Fedora Planet about some obviously unrelated material being posted. I have found a few of them annoying myself. Those include reviews of Ubuntu or other distro experiences on Fedora Planet. Talk of commercial software products or Windows stuff on GNOME Planet. Both planets are independent and not really related and I only bring GNOME Planet up (which I don't regularly read but I think some stuff gets cross-posted from there to Fedora) as another example. Generally most of us just ignore the definitely off-topic posts and move on... but I don't really blame them for finally creating an "Edited" or if you prefer "Censored" flavor of it... while not impeding the regular flavor of it.<br /><br />I don't recall any painfully off-topic material by you so I would guess your stuff would make it to Edited anyway... but it is obvious that you are trying to push things in a mini-rebellion kind of way... which is generally done by people who are seeking to be pushed back... but only you can say for sure.<br /><br />Whatever you decide brother, it'll work out, I'm sure. Peace!Scott Dowdlehttp://www.montanalinux.org/noreply@blogger.com